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  • Guestbook | Support separation of church and state
    to date Reply 28th May 2015 at 5 30 pm David Hackett Thanks Andrew Reply 17th August 2015 at 4 14 pm John Lane I wish to publically acknowledge my non membership of any church whatsoever Reply 22nd August 2015 at 3 15 pm Michael Lynch This has got to be one of the best sites on the internet Spread the word and let logic and common sense prevail Reply 25th August 2015 at 12 38 pm rose bell Many greetings from the irish ecclesiastical conservator connemara Reply 18th December 2015 at 1 52 pm angie clissold officially elated choice freedom many many thanks to notme ie Reply 30th December 2015 at 3 59 pm Bryan Benedetti I do renounce any connection to the Roman Catholic Church and denounce its claims for ecclesiastical authority I am not pleased however with Notme s Un baptism certificate that was produced after I registered It does not accurately state my position but instead inserts another worldview that is also not mine There was no preview showing what was to be posted in my name I therefore also denounce Notme s worldview as well Bryan Benedetti Reply 30th December 2015 at 7 44 pm Helen O Shea Hi Bryan I m an admin on this site Would you like your name removed Reply 28th January 2016 at 1 20 am Eilish Burke Although symbolic this feels like a significant step for me Proud to be able to say I ve defected from the Catholic Church Reply Recent Posts To Baptise or Not to Baptise That is the Question One Excommunication Experience It s my sacred right to leave the Catholic Church Church Changes Defection Process Church Ignores wishes of those wanting to defect Recent Comments Eilish Burke on Guestbook Bryan on To Baptise or

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    Level Catholic Defection Start Date 28th January 2016 Carla Coleman Level Catholic Defection Start Date 23rd August 2015 Carmel Seery Level Catholic Defection Start Date 19th August 2015 Carol Hamill Level Catholic Defection Start Date 11th August 2015 Cathal Finn Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Cathal Reilly Level Catholic Defection Start Date 16th August 2015 Catherine Clifford Level Catholic Defection Start Date 16th August 2015 Catherine McCartney Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Ceire O Donoghue Level Catholic Defection Start Date 9th August 2015 Celsus O Leary Level Catholic Defection Start Date 9th August 2015 Christopher Crockford Level Catholic Defection Start Date 9th August 2015 Christopher McGreal Level Catholic Defection Start Date 15th April 2015 Christopher Sinclair Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Cian O Ciobhain Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Ciara Fagan Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Ciaran De Bhal Level Catholic Defection Start Date 25th January 2016 Ciaran Duffy Level Catholic Defection Start Date 21st October 2015 Ciaran Kelly Level Catholic Defection Start Date 9th August 2015 Cillian Rogers Level Catholic Defection Start Date 31st August 2015 Claire O Leary Level Catholic Defection Start Date 9th August 2015 Claire Sadlier Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Clare Harrington Level Catholic Defection Start Date 9th August 2015 Colin Buckley Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Colleen Sloan Level Catholic Defection Start Date 3rd November 2015 ColleenS Level Catholic Defection Start Date 10th August 2015 Conn Dorai Raj Level Catholic Defection Start Date 16th August 2015 Conor Byrne Level Catholic Defection Start Date 25th December 2015 Conor Lynch Level Catholic Defection Start Date 16th August 2015 Conor O Reilly Level Catholic Defection Start Date 23rd September 2015 Conor O Brien Level Catholic Defection

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  • To Baptise or Not to Baptise, That is the Question? | NotMe.ie
    Limbo This was because they had not been resolved of their original sin so could not enter heaven but were not guilty of any personal sin and so were not damned to hell However more recently the Catholic Church has changed its teachings to one in which they say there is hope that infants who die without baptism are admitted into heaven however they stress that this should not remove the necessity of baptism The ceremony of baptism involves freeing the infant from sin and from the influence of the devil so during the ceremony the priest will say two prayers of exorcism over the infant in the first the priest will command any impure sprits who might be present to leave The second prayer of exorcism is called Ephpheta be open which opens the child to receiving the word of God During the ceremony the parents and godparents will be called upon to take pledges that they will raise the child in keeping with the teachings of the Catholic Church There really is only one reason to baptise your child that is you believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church and you have made the decision to raise the child within this faith Of course the argument could be made that a person should be free to choose or not choose their own religion Infant baptism and indoctrination at a young age goes against the idea of free will but it is the personal choice of the family It is worth noting that at present Canon Law makes it impossible for an individual to remove his or her name from the Baptismal Register There is no means to formally defect from the Catholic Church This means that as things stand once baptised your child will belong to the Catholic Church for life Outside of religious reasons parents will often feel under pressure to baptise their child in order to celebrate the occasion of the birth However there are secular alternatives to a religious ceremony The links below provide some ideas as to how the occasion can be marked It is worth remembering that unlike a marriage there is no legal component to a ceremony to welcome a new baby and so the celebration can be designed and conducted by anyone This means that the event can be personalised with poems speeches and music that hold meaning to the family and friends One of the concerns parents have is that they will not be able to secure a school place for their child without a baptismal certificate It is true that in Ireland 90 of primary schools are currently under the patronage of the Catholic Church and there are few options open to non religious and minority religion families Atheist Ireland runs a campaign Schools Equality PACT which involves lobbying for change Atheist Ireland would argue that it is unacceptable and a breach of human rights for parents to be forced to baptise their child in order to secure

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  • To Baptise or Not to Baptise, That is the Question? | NotMe.ie
    Limbo This was because they had not been resolved of their original sin so could not enter heaven but were not guilty of any personal sin and so were not damned to hell However more recently the Catholic Church has changed its teachings to one in which they say there is hope that infants who die without baptism are admitted into heaven however they stress that this should not remove the necessity of baptism The ceremony of baptism involves freeing the infant from sin and from the influence of the devil so during the ceremony the priest will say two prayers of exorcism over the infant in the first the priest will command any impure sprits who might be present to leave The second prayer of exorcism is called Ephpheta be open which opens the child to receiving the word of God During the ceremony the parents and godparents will be called upon to take pledges that they will raise the child in keeping with the teachings of the Catholic Church There really is only one reason to baptise your child that is you believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church and you have made the decision to raise the child within this faith Of course the argument could be made that a person should be free to choose or not choose their own religion Infant baptism and indoctrination at a young age goes against the idea of free will but it is the personal choice of the family It is worth noting that at present Canon Law makes it impossible for an individual to remove his or her name from the Baptismal Register There is no means to formally defect from the Catholic Church This means that as things stand once baptised your child will belong to the Catholic Church for life Outside of religious reasons parents will often feel under pressure to baptise their child in order to celebrate the occasion of the birth However there are secular alternatives to a religious ceremony The links below provide some ideas as to how the occasion can be marked It is worth remembering that unlike a marriage there is no legal component to a ceremony to welcome a new baby and so the celebration can be designed and conducted by anyone This means that the event can be personalised with poems speeches and music that hold meaning to the family and friends One of the concerns parents have is that they will not be able to secure a school place for their child without a baptismal certificate It is true that in Ireland 90 of primary schools are currently under the patronage of the Catholic Church and there are few options open to non religious and minority religion families Atheist Ireland runs a campaign Schools Equality PACT which involves lobbying for change Atheist Ireland would argue that it is unacceptable and a breach of human rights for parents to be forced to baptise their child in order to secure

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  • To Baptise or Not to Baptise, That is the Question? | NotMe.ie
    Limbo This was because they had not been resolved of their original sin so could not enter heaven but were not guilty of any personal sin and so were not damned to hell However more recently the Catholic Church has changed its teachings to one in which they say there is hope that infants who die without baptism are admitted into heaven however they stress that this should not remove the necessity of baptism The ceremony of baptism involves freeing the infant from sin and from the influence of the devil so during the ceremony the priest will say two prayers of exorcism over the infant in the first the priest will command any impure sprits who might be present to leave The second prayer of exorcism is called Ephpheta be open which opens the child to receiving the word of God During the ceremony the parents and godparents will be called upon to take pledges that they will raise the child in keeping with the teachings of the Catholic Church There really is only one reason to baptise your child that is you believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church and you have made the decision to raise the child within this faith Of course the argument could be made that a person should be free to choose or not choose their own religion Infant baptism and indoctrination at a young age goes against the idea of free will but it is the personal choice of the family It is worth noting that at present Canon Law makes it impossible for an individual to remove his or her name from the Baptismal Register There is no means to formally defect from the Catholic Church This means that as things stand once baptised your child will belong to the Catholic Church for life Outside of religious reasons parents will often feel under pressure to baptise their child in order to celebrate the occasion of the birth However there are secular alternatives to a religious ceremony The links below provide some ideas as to how the occasion can be marked It is worth remembering that unlike a marriage there is no legal component to a ceremony to welcome a new baby and so the celebration can be designed and conducted by anyone This means that the event can be personalised with poems speeches and music that hold meaning to the family and friends One of the concerns parents have is that they will not be able to secure a school place for their child without a baptismal certificate It is true that in Ireland 90 of primary schools are currently under the patronage of the Catholic Church and there are few options open to non religious and minority religion families Atheist Ireland runs a campaign Schools Equality PACT which involves lobbying for change Atheist Ireland would argue that it is unacceptable and a breach of human rights for parents to be forced to baptise their child in order to secure

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  • One Excommunication Experience | NotMe.ie
    did point out to their Excellencies that a reticence in applying sanctions is not what I recall of the clergy I encountered at school I don t believe that either Bishop was being obstructive or evasive Rather it seems that Canon Law does not make it easy for the institution to facilitate the process I had requested In parallel to this correspondence I was also directed through a series of priests who were responsible for implementing Canon Law on behalf of the parish where I was baptised These were variously clergy working locally in the parish priests in the curia within the diocesan office and also in Armagh Throughout this process the basis on which decisions were being taken was not obvious However as best I could make out latae sentential excommunication describes a situation whereby a person effectively excommunicates themselves from the Roman Catholic Church through their actions The penalty of excommunication automatically follows and apostasy is one of the actions that incurs latae sentential excommunication This is described in Canon 1364 Canon 1364 Without prejudice to the prescript of Canon 194 an apostate from the faith a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sentential excommunication in addition a cleric can be punished with the penalties mentioned in Canon 1336 An apostate as opposed to a heretic or a schismatic is defined in Canon 751 Canon 751 Heresy is the obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with members of the Church subject to him As I understand it the requirement to qualify for latae sentential excommunication is not simply that a person should state that they are an apostate This is treated as being indicative of ephemeral doubts Rather a person must prove that their apostasy has had a specific impact on their life In my own case it seems that my membership of Atheist Ireland was sufficient to prove my apostasy allowing me to formally leave the Roman Catholic Church I then received the letter at the link below at the end of this process and I m very grateful to all of the clergy that I engaged with While the procedure seemed lengthy and convoluted all of the individual priests that I corresponded with were scrupulously polite and always responded to my queries and requests promptly Letter from Chancellor Category Right to Defect Views 2394 Share this post a 0 b 0 c 0 d 0 j 0 It s my sacred right to leave the Catholic Church To Baptise or Not to Baptise That is the Question Related posts Right to Defect To Baptise or Not to Baptise That is the Question 30th August 2015 Right to Defect It s my sacred right to leave the Catholic Church 31st October 2014 6 Comments steve white December

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  • One Excommunication Experience | NotMe.ie
    did point out to their Excellencies that a reticence in applying sanctions is not what I recall of the clergy I encountered at school I don t believe that either Bishop was being obstructive or evasive Rather it seems that Canon Law does not make it easy for the institution to facilitate the process I had requested In parallel to this correspondence I was also directed through a series of priests who were responsible for implementing Canon Law on behalf of the parish where I was baptised These were variously clergy working locally in the parish priests in the curia within the diocesan office and also in Armagh Throughout this process the basis on which decisions were being taken was not obvious However as best I could make out latae sentential excommunication describes a situation whereby a person effectively excommunicates themselves from the Roman Catholic Church through their actions The penalty of excommunication automatically follows and apostasy is one of the actions that incurs latae sentential excommunication This is described in Canon 1364 Canon 1364 Without prejudice to the prescript of Canon 194 an apostate from the faith a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sentential excommunication in addition a cleric can be punished with the penalties mentioned in Canon 1336 An apostate as opposed to a heretic or a schismatic is defined in Canon 751 Canon 751 Heresy is the obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with members of the Church subject to him As I understand it the requirement to qualify for latae sentential excommunication is not simply that a person should state that they are an apostate This is treated as being indicative of ephemeral doubts Rather a person must prove that their apostasy has had a specific impact on their life In my own case it seems that my membership of Atheist Ireland was sufficient to prove my apostasy allowing me to formally leave the Roman Catholic Church I then received the letter at the link below at the end of this process and I m very grateful to all of the clergy that I engaged with While the procedure seemed lengthy and convoluted all of the individual priests that I corresponded with were scrupulously polite and always responded to my queries and requests promptly Letter from Chancellor Category Right to Defect Views 2394 Share this post a 0 b 0 c 0 d 0 j 0 It s my sacred right to leave the Catholic Church To Baptise or Not to Baptise That is the Question Related posts Right to Defect To Baptise or Not to Baptise That is the Question 30th August 2015 Right to Defect It s my sacred right to leave the Catholic Church 31st October 2014 6 Comments steve white December

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  • One Excommunication Experience | NotMe.ie
    did point out to their Excellencies that a reticence in applying sanctions is not what I recall of the clergy I encountered at school I don t believe that either Bishop was being obstructive or evasive Rather it seems that Canon Law does not make it easy for the institution to facilitate the process I had requested In parallel to this correspondence I was also directed through a series of priests who were responsible for implementing Canon Law on behalf of the parish where I was baptised These were variously clergy working locally in the parish priests in the curia within the diocesan office and also in Armagh Throughout this process the basis on which decisions were being taken was not obvious However as best I could make out latae sentential excommunication describes a situation whereby a person effectively excommunicates themselves from the Roman Catholic Church through their actions The penalty of excommunication automatically follows and apostasy is one of the actions that incurs latae sentential excommunication This is described in Canon 1364 Canon 1364 Without prejudice to the prescript of Canon 194 an apostate from the faith a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sentential excommunication in addition a cleric can be punished with the penalties mentioned in Canon 1336 An apostate as opposed to a heretic or a schismatic is defined in Canon 751 Canon 751 Heresy is the obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with members of the Church subject to him As I understand it the requirement to qualify for latae sentential excommunication is not simply that a person should state that they are an apostate This is treated as being indicative of ephemeral doubts Rather a person must prove that their apostasy has had a specific impact on their life In my own case it seems that my membership of Atheist Ireland was sufficient to prove my apostasy allowing me to formally leave the Roman Catholic Church I then received the letter at the link below at the end of this process and I m very grateful to all of the clergy that I engaged with While the procedure seemed lengthy and convoluted all of the individual priests that I corresponded with were scrupulously polite and always responded to my queries and requests promptly Letter from Chancellor Category Right to Defect Views 2394 Share this post a 0 b 0 c 0 d 0 j 0 It s my sacred right to leave the Catholic Church To Baptise or Not to Baptise That is the Question Related posts Right to Defect To Baptise or Not to Baptise That is the Question 30th August 2015 Right to Defect It s my sacred right to leave the Catholic Church 31st October 2014 6 Comments steve white December

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