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  • Irish Times 1992
    Award Bookstore News Current Campaigns General Register Office Access to Records Church Records 1926 Census Links Events Diary Genealogy Courses Current Campaigns General Register Office From The Irish Times 5 November 1992 From The Irish Times 9 November 1992 Back

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  • CIGO 1999 Report
    the current PSR facility is unable cope with The programme to improve the PSR facilities which has been promised for a number of years finally began in June 1999 There was a desperate need to increase the PSR s floor space especially as during the summer it became so congested that many researchers some from overseas had to be turned away However while the PSR floor space has been extended by one third the refurbishment have never been completed The chairs tables shelves and the depressing decoration of the PSR are all without exception dirty and dishevelled When comparing the GRO to our other national institutions which hold important genealogical resources such as the National Archives and National Library the PSR is the presentation of the grimy face of Irish genealogy The state of the PSR is the one single issue that regularly astounds overseas visitors who are used to much higher standards in their own countrys public facilities The atrocious state of the PSR is a national embarrassment and needs immediate attention There is only a single set of indexes in the PSR and the payment of the daily 12 general search fee is no guarantee that one will be able to search these indexes The average number of researchers using the PSR at any given time is in excess of 30 and one set of indexes is inadequate among such a number Such pressure on limited resources has also had a negative effect on the indexes many of which now have broken spines and severely damaged pages Some of the cover boards that have split show that they are made of nothing more than compressed Kellogg s cornflakes boxes The computer generated index volumes for the period 1903 to 1927 are an utter disgrace most have a number of pages missing and despite numerous protests some still have dangerous sharp metal corners All the indexes are bound in a manner unsuitable to the vigorous use they receive An attempt to increase the daily search fees PSR users were outraged when it was mooted in 1997 that GRO search fees were to be increased The Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations the Dun Laoghaire Genealogical Society the Association of Professional Genealogists in Ireland various overseas interest groups and numerous private individuals lobbied the then Minister for Health The increase was decried as indefensible given the state of the service provided The general feeling amongst users was that increased GRO fees for an ever decreasing quality of service would not be tolerated The introduction of restrictions on the daily number of photocopies issued Since July August 1999 the GRO has introduced a new rule that reduces to eight the number of photocopies a researcher may obtain per day This rule runs contrary to the Statutory Instrument which sets the GRO search fees The measure was met with astonishment by the users of the PSR some of whom have since complained to the Ombudsman The Ombudsman has since declared that the linking

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  • CIGO GRO Petition
    Office GRO Petition 1999 2000 Results of an Internet Petition to the Minister for Health and Children about the Records of the GRO Compiled by Dennis Ahern this report was prepared from 2 739 entries submitted over the Internet between December 10 1999 and March 17 2000 The opinions expressed are those of the individual respondents and do not necessarily reflect the views or recommendations of CIGO Countries represented include United States 1 861 Australia 276 Canada 239 England 80 New Zealand 73 Ireland 58 Scotland 13 Northern Ireland 9 Wales 7 South Africa 7 Germany 4 France 2 Argentina 2 Venezuela 1 Bermuda 1 Switzerland 1 Austria 1 Malaysia 1 Japan 1 The following files are in Adobe Acrobat format and have been optimized for printing or viewing in either USA or European page sizes If you do not have an Acrobat viewer on your computer you can download one for free from http www adobe com products acrobat readstep html A4 page size 8 27 x 11 69 optimized for viewing online 177 pages 828 2 kb A4 page size 8 27 x 11 69 optimized for printing 177 pages 921 5 kb USA page size 8 5

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  • 2002 Press Release
    effect to the provisions in the 1987 Status of Children Act Unfortunately those concerning registration of deaths fail to address the fact that too little information is currently recorded in Irish death certificates In the 21st century death certificates need to record a deceased person s date place of birth and the maiden name of a married widowed or divorced woman They ve been doing this in Northern Ireland since 1973 Another part of the Bill removes the public s current statutory entitlement to view the original registers dating back to 1864 of births deaths and marriages in the various superintendent registrars offices throughout the country If passed this would have a major impact on those involved in legal and probate work property conveyance and of course genealogists and family historians working and living outside the Dublin area It might also have serious legal implications for public access to the microfilm copies of these records held by the Church of Latter Day Saints Mormon international network of family history libraries It certainly doesn t bode well for the various county based genealogical heritage centres many of which have obtained copies of their county s civil registers for the 19th century and a good deal of the 20th All of these centres have been set up through funding made available from such sources as the European Union and the International Fund for Ireland There is widespread concern among genealogists internationally about the constantly deteriorating level of access to Ireland s civil records An on line survey concerning this matter was conducted for CIGO by a Boston based genealogist The resulting petition containing comments and scathing complaints from several thousand family historians spread throughout the world has been submitted to the Minister for Social Family and Community Affairs Mr Dermot Ahern T

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  • 2002 Press Coverage
    in superintendent registrars offices around the country After special software has been made available later this year all records will be kept on a centralised computer system The Department of Health Children said last night that computerisation of records would improve access rather than restrict it at a national level But CIGO claims its fears were not taken on board by the Government in the preparation of the legislation likely to be signed into law by President McAleese in the coming days Steven Smyrl of CIGO said there was widespread concern among genealogists internationally about the constantly deteriorating level of access to Ireland s civil records This will have a major impact on those involved in legal and probate work property conveyance and genealogists working and living outside Dublin he said Mr Smyrl said that there could be serious legal implications for public access to the microfilm copies of these records which are held by the Church of Latter Day Saints the Mormons The church has an international network of family history libraries which allows members around the world trace their ancestors It doesn t bode well for genealogical heritage centres many of which have obtained copies of their county

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  • 2002 Irish Times Letter
    Government Departments concerned Health and Children and Social Community and Family Affairs appear to place no value on the experience and expertise of those who made submissions during last May s month long period of consultation about modernising Ireland s outdated civil registration system I am a member of at least three organisations involved in genealogy and historical research which made submissions but which in almost a year have never had even the courtesy of an acknowledgement never mind some sort of feedback When I then discovered that amendments to current legislation had been quietly tacked on to the end of the Social Welfare Miscellaneous Provisions Bill which as another issue entirely was pushed through the Seanad last week in a matter of hours I was left with the disturbing realisation that last May s consultation had been nothing more than an utter sham Yours etc DES K CLARKE St Brigid s Grove Killester Dublin 5 From the Irish Examiner 4 April 2002 Our Right To Trace Our Family Trees It is already very hard to find our roots and I wonder at the purpose of making it even more difficult Tracing roots made harder by act The Irish Examiner March 28 As a Sullivan descended from John and Mary Sullivan of Bearhaven I am sure you can imagine the difficulties I already face Why would the Irish government want to keep secret ancestors from families who do not want their memories to be lost Tourism to Ireland to visit the homeland of one s ancestors will be less motivating to a person who cannot trace their roots to even a particular area of the country This is certainly true for myself who has only recently found the area of Ireland from which my great grandmother was raised Here in the United States records of people who have not passed on are very difficult to acquire in most cases Our census records are sealed for 72 years at which time most of the people counted were no longer among the living While at times this is frustrating I can understand the reasoning behind such a rule But to make these records no longer available at all or to forever seal the birth death and marriage records would be a travesty I feel that the knowledge of one s ancestors and their history should be the birthright of us all not just the aristocracy or famous personages Please support not only the continuation of the current level of access but the restoration of the indices and broader access to our families in Ireland Cindy Sullivan Lake Stevens From the Irish Examiner 6 April 2002 Past is Prologue The Irish government is considering limiting access by the public to records concerning the births marriages and deaths of ancestors Irish Examiner March 28 This is shocking particularly in light of the strong economic growth and leadership that we have learnt about in Canadian media reports As Canadians of Irish descent we have always

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  • Irish Times 2004
    In marriage registrations since 1956 both parties dates of birth are recorded as well as their parents names Before that only the parties ages and fathers names were given leaving room for doubts about identity The 1996 Births Act modified birth registrations very slightly but the new Civil Registration Bill proposes to include each parent s date of birth and in turn their mother s maiden surnames For too long Irish death certificates have been recognised internationally as lacking in integrity a statement I do not make lightly Irish death registrations record so little information that for those bearing prolific names identity is too often a contentious issue Take the case of a John Murphy who died in Dublin in April 1989 aged 70 Is he the same man whose birth was registered in Co Leitrim in February 1919 or is he the one born in Galway town in August of the same year Then again perhaps he is the one born in Coleraine in October 1918 Who knows Ireland s death registrations are treated with extreme caution particularly in the US Far from giving the deceased dignity in death too often they are seen as a lucky dip where any number of records might fit given criteria The new Bill includes provision to record deceased persons dates of birth This is of course a welcome move one which has been supported and lobbied for by numerous organisations including amongst others the Association of Professional Genealogists in Ireland the Irish Family History Society the Irish Genealogical Research Society the Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations the North of Ireland Family History Society and significantly the Law Society of Ireland Unfortunately accurate recollection of dates of birth is far from universal amongst the older generation in Ireland It is only in recent times that need has arisen to recite one s date of birth to public officials Much stronger across all sections of Irish society is the knowledge of where one s family hails from In probably no other European country is the link to the land as strong as it is in Ireland If asked for your father s date and place of birth while the place might be forthcoming without hesitation the date would need to be considered The General Register Office GRO holds the opinion that no extra detail is required in Irish death registrations because in future its new computerised system will be capable of making links between all civil records by use of the Personal Public Service Number PPSN However this argument is flawed as only future registrations will include the PPSN Therefore only future registrations can be linked It will be 60 or 70 years into the future before those who die will have a birth record on the GRO system that shows a PPSN and can therefore be linked one record to another The Department of Social and Family Affairs the Bill s sponsor believes that including the place of birth as well as the

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  • Extract CRA 2004 (deaths)
    of birth or age last birthday of deceased Profession or occupation of deceased If deceased was married the profession or occupation of spouse If deceased was less than 18 years of age on date of death occupation s of his or her parent s or guardian s Forename s and birth surname of father of deceased Forename s and birth surname of mother of deceased Certificated cause of death duration

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