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  • Counting The Days | Broadsheet.ie
    wouldn t allow them to speak out Dόn Pídgéόní October 7 2015 at 1 52 pm And I m asking for proof of that The rest of that is very silly manolo October 7 2015 at 1 55 pm Here you know where to find them Go there and ask them yourself Dόn Pídgéόní October 7 2015 at 1 57 pm Ah so you can t back it up Got it MoyestWithExcitement October 7 2015 at 2 04 pm Of course he can t back it up These definitely not racists constantly mistake their feelings for objective facts It s both hilarious and desperately sad human October 7 2015 at 2 06 pm No point trying to argue with regressive leftists they have their critical faculties switched off manolo October 7 2015 at 2 10 pm Here are two connections that need to be tested but I admit bias in believing they exist open to corrections 1 Halawa siblings Muslim brotherhood 2 Muslim brotherhood Sharia Law Dόn Pídgéόní October 7 2015 at 2 13 pm So you just think they are connected rather than having evidence of it This is silly And naturally leads on to so what Does that mean he should be imprisoned for taking part in a protest if that is all he did If he is an Irish citizen he is entitled to support from the consulate and for them to try and get him out as anyone would be manolo October 7 2015 at 2 14 pm Human don t get me wrong I consider myself to be very much in the left and socially very liberal but I do think that democracy faces a huge challenge when people are using democratic rights as a tool to try to remove democracy and civil liberties though some people here think that is silly manolo October 7 2015 at 2 17 pm Dόn Pídgéόní I NEVER said he should or should not be in jail I thought that was clear My issue here is about people who dislike western political systems using the the same rights they don t want for the country Dόn Pídgéόní October 7 2015 at 2 19 pm And I m still unclear whether there is any evidence of that By saying that the family supports sharia law you imply that they should just suck it up and he should stay in jail human October 7 2015 at 2 21 pm manolo I m on your side Its these agenda driven guys like Dόn Pídgéόní that are the regressive liberals The snake that eats itself Dόn Pídgéόní October 7 2015 at 2 23 pm At least you changed leftie to liberal human but I think you still have a lot of work to do You can do it practice makes perfect manolo October 7 2015 at 2 25 pm Dόn Pídgéόní the only thing I imply is that if they and I believe they do advocate Sharia law it is hypocritical of them to be standing at government buildings in protest As for your other forceful assumptions and voluntary misinterpretations they are nothing else but that MoyestWithExcitement October 7 2015 at 2 32 pm I do think that democracy faces a huge challenge when people are using democratic rights as a tool to try to remove democracy and civil liberties So you are worried about democracy but you seem to have no problem with someone being locked up for 2 years and put on trial with 420 years to answer charges that include being in a Mosque which carry the death penalty No you re definitely a champion of democracy Dόn Pídgéόní October 7 2015 at 2 37 pm Forceful assumptions and voluntary misinterpretations are exactly what you are doing manolo October 7 2015 at 4 09 pm MoyestWithExcitement what s with these attacks You say I seem to have no problem with someone being locked up for 2 years I never said that I said that I don t have enough reliable information to take a public position on the incarceration and to defend this position in a debate If you have good and reliable information about the arrest and what is going on in the background please share it I will consider it In the meantime the articles in the press that I read so far the comments of the Halawa sisters and all these mad dog barking comments are just noise as far as I am concerned MoyestWithExcitement October 7 2015 at 4 50 pm Does the fact that the sisters advocate for Sharia law make my comment relevant So you don t have enough facts about his incarceration but apparently you have enough facts to make this statement Are you just taking the pish here This is a wind up right manolo October 7 2015 at 4 56 pm MoyestWithExcitement what s the part you don t get I can explain slowly again if it helps MoyestWithExcitement October 7 2015 at 4 57 pm So you re not on a windup Jayzus manolo October 7 2015 at 5 29 pm Amazing innit newsjustin October 7 2015 at 1 37 pm I d be all for Shakira Law Reply Randy Ewing October 7 2015 at 1 45 pm Lucky that my breasts are small and humble So you don t confuse them with mountains Reply FK October 7 2015 at 2 15 pm Yes because trials are so much quicker when hips don t lie Reply ahjayzis October 7 2015 at 2 17 pm Honesty is a vital component of the justice system I dream of a day when Ireland s hips don t lie Reply Eamonn Clancy October 7 2015 at 1 48 pm How can they afford to protest outside the Dail everyday Are they in receipt of the dole And if so isn t a provision of that that you must be available for work at all times As for their brother he was in his country

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  • How Many More Longboats? | Broadsheet.ie
    I see your point I feel however that I have a reasonable expectation of regulation and compliance but apparently I am wrong I cannot see how every bidder for every property paying for separate invasive surveys is a more efficient system than bonded builders with prosecutions for failure How naïve am I TheRichList October 2 2015 at 10 04 am I bought an apartment in 2004 and I was on site all throughout the build I can guarantee it won t pass any fire inspection There has to be hundreds of apartment blocks like this in Ireland Reply cian October 2 2015 at 10 11 am TheRichList why did you buy an apartment that you know won t pass a fire inspection Reply Mani October 2 2015 at 11 51 am Clearly because he plans to burn it down Reply Clampers Outside October 2 2015 at 10 17 am Em yes can you clarify did you know it wouldn t pass or you found out later and if you knew why did you buy Genuinely curious Reply Spaghetti Hoop October 2 2015 at 12 01 pm I m also curious to know if the house survey undertaken by prospective buyers covers fire safety Reply Juno October 2 2015 at 12 46 pm Hoop It should do Depends mainly on who you get to do your survey but they should give an opinion on fire issues if present e g bedroom windows above ground floor in houses should be certain sizes for escape and rescue under the fire regs but are rarely compliant Surveys however are non invasive and don t cover things like knocking massive holes in the wall to see if insulation and fire breaks are in place Reply Spaghetti Hoop October 2 2015 at 12 58 pm Indeed Many buyers just get them to fulfil the Mortgage Lender s requirements i e that the property exists and is standing I suspect this survey may get ramped up now as a result of these new cases with boom properties Mr T October 2 2015 at 2 17 pm He bought because he was always going to rent it out and doesn t give a f k about the people who live in it Maybe he was part of the consortium who built it and he then bought one of units which was very common Reply Custo October 2 2015 at 10 10 am See also Aras Na Cluine in Clondalkin McFeely s other masterwork Reply classter October 2 2015 at 11 49 am Seriously though I cannot wrap my head around t he idea that people will buy something so important so expensive from somebody like McFeely People will barely go out to dinner or buy a set of headphones without reading reviews Reply Odockatee October 2 2015 at 10 12 am The washing of hands championship begins Reply mike October 2 2015 at 10 30 am Eloquently put See no evil hear no evil Reply phil fluther October 7 2015 at 11 09 am K O Reply Christopher October 2 2015 at 10 20 am Measly predictable answer Reply ahjayzis October 2 2015 at 10 24 am It s insane the cavalier way we treat the construction buying and selling of houses in Ireland Buying a pair of jeans affords you more rights to redress and recompense than the largest financial transaction of your life I work in an architecture firm in London the Council s building control officers are on call for us 24 7 they oversee everything we run ideas by them And they re great not dogmatic at all they have a hundred different ways to meet regulations fully without compromising anything on design or finish Reply Sam October 2 2015 at 10 40 am That s not what anyone in authority here means when they say best international practice though Regulations or lack thereof shall be designed and enforced ignored in line with the need for votes profits jobs When someone dies enforcement goes up for a while Reply classter October 2 2015 at 10 52 am Building Control in the UK is definitely not best practice however ahjayzis is finding them at present also much of it has been outsourced to the private sector The same cultural problems around construction which exist in Ireland exist also in the UK And when the current boom in the UK finishes there will be plenty of cases of shoddy dangerous construction coming to light The real issue is a public establishment which treats the built environment primarily as a giant ponzi scheme and which regards design building mainly as a cost to be incurred along the way Reply classter October 2 2015 at 10 43 am Buying a pair of jeans affords you more rights to redress and recompense than the largest financial transaction of your life This isn t true you have essentially the same rights but the company that built it no longer exists If the jean manufacturer or supplier is bankrupt you are also stuck Reply fmong October 2 2015 at 10 52 am there are many many quality reputable jean manafacturers throughout the country Reply Clampers Outside October 2 2015 at 2 39 pm Farah doesn t operate here any more Reply Andyourpointiswhatexactly October 2 2015 at 6 05 pm Slacks Slacks frocks Words I d like to see used more often Sam October 2 2015 at 10 53 am Company Law is a wonderful thing innit Many years ago I worked for the Dept of Infrastructure in Melboure One of the things they had was a register of approved builders for large projects We would take note of prior history and of any previous ownership directorship of other companies that had not been up to scratch You weren t getting on the short list for anything if your previous company had left a trail of shoddy builds behind it And yet here I ve seen a company build an estate wind up before time to hand it over to council then a new company with the same people build the estate next to it Ask the council why can t we have speedbumps or anything simple as that and the answer is the council hasn t taken over the estate and we can t contact the company they ve gone out of business Push a bit further by saying the same people are building estate X 2 miles up the road from the council office and it becomes I don t have any information about that Reply meadowlark October 2 2015 at 11 06 am That very same thing happened to my grandmother s estate No streetlights and no bin collections were only the start of the problem All down to a dodgy builder and the problems went on for years Builder never held accountable and the council completely uninterested in fixing the problem Reply classter October 2 2015 at 12 15 pm Company law has been modified a number of times to try and deal specifically with the problem of construction firms But yea until buyers take an interest in who it is they are buying from what contractual relationship they actually have there ll be problems like this But classter ordinary Irish people should be able to make 400k investments without any thought knowledge or due diligence It s our right realPolithicks October 2 2015 at 4 17 pm Builder never held accountable and the council completely uninterested in fixing the problem Isn t that the common theme with every issue like this that arises in Ireland nobody is ever held accountable for anything and that is why these things happen over and over again phil fluther October 7 2015 at 11 42 am Catch 22 Ireland Reply Owen October 2 2015 at 12 51 pm Ahjayzis in your experience how much of this has to fall onto the engineering provider fire consultant With full respect its not the architect with the experience to determine fire management for a building am I wrong Which then leads to the assumption that there was never a specialist employed which means it got through planning without its full basic requirements His reiteration of many good builders is correct Can we fault the builders here They build from a plan Was the plan wrong or just never developed Reply classter October 2 2015 at 1 43 pm Usually the architect takes responsibility for it then subs it off to a fire engineer Architects determine a lot of things without necessarily having the appropriate experience sometimes they get consultants sometimes they don t see also acoustics durability of finishes flow of people building physics etc Sometimes this is becasue an architect is arrogant or greedy but often it is because the client doesn t wish to pay for a host of additional services Reply Owen October 2 2015 at 1 49 pm OK all makes sense Thanks But if it was a consultant engineering firm id be inclined to think its their responsibility The architect would not be able to verify if consultants work is correct so should have a contract with the To be fair it makes no difference here they will all point at one another I was more just curious Cheers Reply classter October 2 2015 at 1 46 pm Was the plan wrong or just never developed Its not clear whether the fault lies with the design specification or with the builder s execution of this design More commonly it is some combination of the two It is often very difficult to separate blame neatly in these cases Building is an intensely collaborative activity which is why the adversarial attitudes which pertain in the industry law in much of the English speaking world are so counter productive Reply phil fluther October 7 2015 at 11 21 am Hard hats harder necks Reply Ms Piggy October 2 2015 at 10 24 am Can anyone explain to me why McNamara and or others in positions of responsibility in his former company aren t facing criminal charges for this I realise that his speedy bankruptcy and folding of the company means that it can t be held financially liable for the costs of fixing the building But bankruptcy doesn t absolve you of non financial legal requirements And even if there were no inspectors even if this was self certification someone at some point signed a legal declaration of fire safety and building regulations which they knew to be untrue Surely this is a criminal offence This is a genuine question I keep waiting for it be raised in news reports on this story but it never is Reply Kath October 2 2015 at 12 24 pm I d love to know as well Any legal eagles out there who can explain why these cowboys aren t being brought to court and or penalised If there s no direct negative consequences to throwing up a shoddy build and hiding behind company law creating closing companies as it suits doesn t that silently condone this practice Reply stephen October 2 2015 at 1 46 pm This Broadsheet if you are reading maybe you can get Legal Coffee Drinker to explain why there is no talk of charges of fraud does company law really protect people that much Either someone signed of on it or the director of the company is responsible Reply Clampers Outside October 2 2015 at 2 42 pm 1 And if not can someone find an old company register and we ordinary Joe s can at least name the directors online I d love to know where they are now do they get govt contracts are they pals of TDs and all of that They should be banned from the industry completely Reply classter October 2 2015 at 1 47 pm Has there been a single case in Ireland or indeed in the UK USA where a CEO has been successfully prosecuted for wrongdoing not shown to have been explicitly endorsed by him her Reply phil fluther October 7 2015 at 12 27 pm Certificate of Compliance I read Certificate of not dotting the i s and crossing the t s Compliance Reply Conor October 2 2015 at 10 24 am Gimps the lot of them Rich gimps so it s ok nothing will happen to them The cycle continues in merry old Ireland What ever happened about those houses that burnt down in Newbridge Any builder get charged over the shoddy building there A fire in a modern home shouldn t be able to spread to 5 other homes Reply Deluded October 2 2015 at 10 50 am An investigation is underway http www irishexaminer com viewpoints columnists michael clifford kildare fire safety concerns arise from celtic tiger ashes 321931 html The Newbridge fire was in the afternoon and everyone got out No information on the other houses in the estate or in other developments by that firm Barrack Construction Reply Clampers Outside October 2 2015 at 10 30 am Pass the parcel a game played by grown sleeveen men so brilliantly demonstrated by Miriam Not one iota of integrity among any of them All happy to ignore any sense of decency yes ALL Hubert in particular Not really listening just repeating his line An interviewee can not be any more disingenuous in an interview no respect for those who are losing their homes built by members of the ICF Hubert has obviously done his basic media training 1 0 1 with his repetition shtick Well you can repeat this ya numpty there is plenty reason anyone would think are many many bad quality disreputable builders throughout the country who are still in business today But what have you done about them Do these guys the ICF not have fines for members and if not what the hell is the point of the ICF Scumbags Reply Guest October 2 2015 at 10 42 am Bernard McNamara is not a member of CIF as far as I m aware from looking at their website Also they are not a regulatory body so wouldn t have any authority to impose fines that s up to the Government to create and ensure the legal obilagations Reply Clampers Outside October 2 2015 at 10 59 am Thanks for the clarification Reply Clampers Outside October 2 2015 at 11 07 am So as you say just scumbag lobbyists nothing more Reply fmong October 2 2015 at 10 54 am CIF is a lobby group for the building industry they re the ones that would have pushed for low regulations in the Tiger years Reply Clampers Outside October 2 2015 at 10 59 am Precisely Reply classter October 2 2015 at 1 52 pm More specifically they are a lobby group for building contractors And they are given far too much airtime Reply dylad October 2 2015 at 10 49 am Ah sure someone else is to blame Reply Owen October 2 2015 at 12 53 pm But I spoke to someone else and he told me it was another lad Reply TK ickle October 2 2015 at 11 17 am Where s that house building Bond thing that was on the go back in the day Reply Diddy October 2 2015 at 11 19 am Didn t builders assess the quality of their own structures under FF Madness Reply reidman October 2 2015 at 11 26 am The builder is not a mystery and is very much back in business both in Dublin working for redacted and has done an extension at the k club relevant points that radio stations owned by redacted are hesitant to point out Reply Anomanomanom October 2 2015 at 12 01 pm What s with every using redacted are we so afraid to say DENNIS O BRIEN Reply ABM s Bloodied Underwear October 2 2015 at 4 09 pm DENIS O BRIEN Reply galwaytt October 2 2015 at 12 24 pm interesting that the architect for this job has removed Long Boat Quay from the portfolio on their website http www mciarch com arch longboat longboat htm mmmmmmmm Reply Stewart Curry October 2 2015 at 1 46 pm That is some old school webmastering right there More nested tables than a Harvey Norman warehouse Reply Conski October 2 2015 at 12 36 pm twas guessed at that he was involved in design stage and not the build Reply classter October 2 2015 at 1 58 pm I wondered at that it is difficult to believe that the RIAI rep didn t check that before coming on air Reply Juno October 2 2015 at 12 39 pm Hang on a second it was NEVER the job of the architect engineer to certify and let s use the as it s intended to be certain works carried out by someone else comply with regulations An arch eng job is to design the building in compliance and the builder s job is to build it in compliance Any incompetent professional who designs buildings that are not in compliance can and will be taken to court Any builder who s work is not in compliance should also have legal action taken against them Inspections USED to be the remit of the Building Control Authority who under the previous government were removed of any responsibility requirement to carry out inspections It then became the builder s remit self certification a declaration that he had completed the works in accordance with the drawings and specifications and building regulations The Architect Engineer Fire Safety Consultant etc would provide documents called opinions on compliance essentially stating that the building complied if carried out in accordance with the drawings and specification and were backed up by the contractor s declaration This was the case before SI9 was brought in last year i e the changes to the building certificate and registration system Now you have a separate Assigned Certifier

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  • Mary Boyle And ‘Political Interference’ | Broadsheet.ie
    1 2015 at 9 24 pm Nobody has got this Shocking Reply Cloud October 2 2015 at 11 35 am Thank you one person Reply Owen October 1 2015 at 12 21 pm My money is on Sinn Fein Not one of the disappeared just the pedo ring they have been covering up for years Reply Mike Oxlong October 1 2015 at 12 30 pm Good deductive reasoning there Columbo Reply fluffybiscuits October 1 2015 at 12 33 pm Owen are you a blueshirt Using a young girls death to score political points Reply Owen October 1 2015 at 1 34 pm After googling blueshirt I find your comment contradictory to its purpose Reply ABM s Bloodied Underwear October 1 2015 at 2 11 pm Google pillock ollie October 1 2015 at 12 40 pm Owen you idiot Reply Mr T October 1 2015 at 12 46 pm You re quite the offensive little Blueshirt Owen Probably a Young Fine Gaeler using the tragedies of families to score points for your centre right ideology Reply Owen October 1 2015 at 1 31 pm Oh ffs calm down Why does everyone have to be so sensitive The article says a politician and sexually abused Hardly offending people by putting them together and saying Sinn Fein I had to google blueshirt in politics I thought I was being called working class Reply Willie Banjo October 1 2015 at 1 41 pm Why does everyone have to be so sensitive Owen Eh it s the murder of a child and you only care to use it to make petty political attacks There are other websites for people like you why don t you head there Reply Owen October 1 2015 at 2 13 pm Oh for Christ sake a political bashing Really Get a grip The death of a child and a sexual assault occurred in 1977 From the article I suspect we will hear it was Sinn Fein The only problem you or anyone has with that sentence is the party I name nothing more Sure look at Mr T comment below naming other parties Exact same as mine just a different party Reply Joan Burton October 1 2015 at 2 34 pm Well Owen as you love the googling so much a quick bit would have told you the TDs of the day then were FG FF James White FG Neil Blaney IFF Paddy Harte FG Joseph Brennan FF Hugh Conaghan FF Clement Coughlan FF BTW FG Blue Shirt FF Brown Evelope Owen October 1 2015 at 3 06 pm Thanks Joan Exact same comment as mine in essence but with far more clarity and potential finger pointing of not only political parties but actual names Just like Mr T below I have clearly struck a nerve noting Sinn Feinn I am not affiliated with a political party but am a betting man and my money is staying on them d oh October 1 2015 at 1 55 pm 1 Reply Mr T October 1 2015 at 1 56 pm Owen You didn t have to Google Blueshirt because you know full well who they were And still there you are using the disappearance of a child for the Sinn Fein bashing I think you ll find that the only group in Ireland who continually try to associate Sinn Fein with child abuse are Fine Gael Nobody else does Reply Seriously October 1 2015 at 2 15 pm I had to google blueshirt in politics I thought I was being called working class sounds like something a blueshirt would say Reply Gock October 3 2015 at 5 12 pm How can anyone commenting on BS claim to not know what being a Blueshirt means I don t know which would be sillier someone who knows that little feeling they should express a view rather than ask questions or someone pretending they don t know what it means Reply classter October 1 2015 at 2 35 pm Owen stupid Blueshirt slurs aside the biggest likelihood based on politicians in Donegal at the time is that any such culprit if indeed there s any real truth to these allegations is FF with FG next in line I m not suggesting that SF never would have done something like that indeed it seems very clear that they did but it seems unlikely that they could have done so here Reply Demon October 1 2015 at 4 07 pm If it s a politician covering up surely the implication is that it was a politician in power otherwise he wouldn t have been able to influence the Gardaí At the time of this crime that wasn t Sinn Féin Reply Owen October 1 2015 at 4 54 pm It doesn t say it was a politician at all It say political interference classter October 1 2015 at 8 15 pm That was the point Demon eileen October 1 2015 at 8 01 pm Blue collar is the expression in need of a history lesson Reply Joe cool October 1 2015 at 1 38 pm Many a time I ve seen stupidity reach levels I d never thought I d see It surprises me every time Then there s this guy Reply ollie October 1 2015 at 12 41 pm So there may have been child abusers outside the Catholic Church Quelle suprise Reply Mr T October 1 2015 at 1 00 pm TDs sitting Donegal Leitrim during March 1977 before General Election in June 1977 were Cormac Breslin Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fail died in 1978 Joseph Brennan Fianna Fail died in 1980 James White Fine Gael died in 2014 Reply J October 1 2015 at 2 00 pm Broadsheet considering the delicate nature of this thread an inference could be made from Mr T s comment It is inappropriate and should be deleted Reply Spaghetti Hoop October 1 2015 at 2 03 pm How is it inappropriate All I read was that the above are

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  • Different Strokes For Different Volks | Broadsheet.ie
    it I d say you ve quite a few friends who set up businesses bleed them of cash don t pay their suppliers go bust on a Friday and then restart under a new name on Monday Seems to be a subject they learn in private schools in Ireland Everyone calls them entrepreneurs but all they re actually just scumbags thugs in suits Reply Walter Ego October 5 2015 at 2 56 pm 1 Reply Disasta October 5 2015 at 4 22 pm 1 Reply curmudgeon October 5 2015 at 3 29 pm Eh its more like if VW went bust and then the top brass of now defunct VW opened a brand new company and built the same car again and continued to make money You don t see how this is a problem Reply Jonotti October 5 2015 at 3 36 pm No not really Being a director of a dissolved company should not be a life sentence barring you from being in business This is the basis of Western capitalism Directors involved in criminality are a different matter Reply curmudgeon October 5 2015 at 3 50 pm It being the basis of western capitalism isn t going to swing me into your line of thinking They sold defective and or dangerous vehicles homes they should not be allowed do the same again If they wanna be a paye employee that s just fine but allowing them to manage a business with that track record is not Reply fmong October 5 2015 at 3 51 pm Directors involved in criminality are a different matter Reply Jockey October 5 2015 at 12 31 pm When he says The apartment it turns out was not built correctly Somebody broke the regulations and someone else never checked the work IMO the owners shouldn t have to pay for this But is this a true statement I thought I saw somewhere that the regulations weren t in place at the time So at the point in time the apartments were built each box was ticked as appropriate and since then new boxes to tick have been implemented Or are we saying that these regulations were in place at the time but were actively ignored Genuinely curious Reply ahjayzis October 5 2015 at 12 42 pm Fire regs were in place a system of inspecting works wasn t so they skimped on the materials needed basically At design stage all this would have been designed in inspected by the fire officer and signed off at design stage It s construction stage you can deviate wildly from the consented and cut corners Reply Anne October 5 2015 at 12 53 pm There s nothing wrong with the building regulations The problem is that the builder didn t adhere to them and the process for certification inspections isn t sufficient to ensure builders adhere to the building regs There s no new boxes to be ticked or whatever you re on about Reply Anne October 5 2015 at 12 54 pm Sorry that sounded a bit snarky Even RTE are reporting issues with the building regulations There s not Reply spider October 5 2015 at 12 58 pm Didn t see you question before I posted To certify that a building meets the regulations architects have to first inspect then sign sign a Certificate of Compliance on a finished building but the wording of that documentation is so ambiguous that it means nothing from a legal sense However due to the power of the RIAI the insurance companies and the local authorities demand that they have to be completed The architects make a huge amount of money out of this which is paid for by the end owner yet they will not be held accountable The architects have also engineered a situation where it is very difficult for any other party to provide a Certificate of Compliance Jobs for the boys money in their pockets etc but no protection for the home owner The RIAI should be held to account Reply ahjayzis October 5 2015 at 12 34 pm Is it not really simple Have the developers forgo some of their profit for a period of time say ten fifteen years as a form of bond against defects arising The developers themselves I m sure could get insurance to cover this and the insurance company can inspect to make sure it s not going to take a hit on some scumbag saving a few quid on fire barriers and intumescent paint Right now it s the professions under the new regs who are taking the risk but you can inspect something going in sign it off and go home and they can take it out again You always hear stories about people taking half the steel out of a slab as soon as the engineer s left the site and pouring to hide it Also form a guild of builders or something so that people who do this are never again allowed build in Ireland again It s GALLING that McNamara is still contributing to our built environment and raking it in in the process Reply Deluded October 5 2015 at 5 35 pm Rebar relocation is traditional A building I was on had the slabs x rayed How thorough should my surveyor be Reply Paolo October 5 2015 at 12 37 pm You are trying to draw an equivalence where one doesn t exist 1 Volkswagon did not accidentally write a few lines of code It designed and created software and hardware to get around standards 2 Volkswagon is still in business the company that built Longboat Quay is not 3 The organisation that signed off on Volkswagon s emission tests is not paying out any money to anybody Apart from that well done Reply spider October 5 2015 at 12 52 pm Architects have to sign a Certificate of Compliance on a finished building but the wording of that documentation is so ambiguous that it means nothing from a legal sense However due to the power of the RIAI the insurance companies and the local authorities demand that they have to be completed The architects make a huge amount of money out of this which is paid for by the end owner yet they will not be held accountable The architects have also engineered a situation where it is very difficult for any other party to provide a Certificate of Compliance Jobs for the boys money in their pockets etc but no protection for the home owner The RIAI should be held to account Reply Mr T October 5 2015 at 12 53 pm These builders set up companies for each project they build This contains liability to that particular project company only as long as there are no personal guarantees given It s standard practice in Ireland So they don t care about the long term consequences of their dishonest practices Reply Jonotti October 5 2015 at 12 58 pm Limited liability is standard practice the world over People need to be better consumers Stop stumping up huge amounts of loaned money to chancers like McNamara Reply spider October 5 2015 at 1 04 pm Are you suggesting that people inspect their own homes before purchasing or just refuse to buy based on the name of the developer who may or may not be compliant Both options do not seem plausible Reply Jonotti October 5 2015 at 1 27 pm Yes until the system changes Don t buy off plan and be very careful with your money If it goes tits up then don t expect the state to cover you Reply spider October 5 2015 at 1 33 pm How do you expect people to inspect the building post build it would mean disassembling the building to find the materials inside then rigorously testing them and checking all certificates etc It would also require an extensive knowledge of the regulations etc curmudgeon October 5 2015 at 4 04 pm Difference in buying off plan for me in 2006 was 40 000 If i had waited till it was built i would not have gotten any of the apartments i wanted nor the car parking space And even then there was still 2 years worth of snag lists ear marked for the builder to fix after being nagged by residents committee and managment company So was I supposed to wait a decade or so to see a change in regulations Jonotti October 5 2015 at 4 16 pm No you should have waited 5 years and bought your apartment for 60 less whilst also being able to thoroughly check it over before purchasing You lose at life Disasta October 5 2015 at 4 25 pm Jonotti you sound like an absolute To be fair ahjayzis October 5 2015 at 1 13 pm Rubbish Even if every one of the 100 s of buyers were to send their own professional to inspect I highly doubt they d be allowed on site These people had a reasonable expectation that the building they were paying for did what it said on the tin namely won t turn into uncontrollable inferno in the event of fire as per the regs it was supposedly built to Your free market form of building control build what you like people will pay extra for fire and building reg compliance leads to tragedies like the Stardust should those who died have been better consumers and demanded to see the Fire Cert at the door Reply Anne October 5 2015 at 2 05 pm 1 Reply ivan October 5 2015 at 2 06 pm a pointless comment People need to be better consumers makes no sense When Longboat Quay was built even if you got the finest engineer in Ireland to give your prospective apartment the once over he probably didn t have x ray eyes so as to see what had hadn t been put in the walls etc so that he could advise the potential purchaser stay away In 2007 whether you bought off the plans or bought when there was that nice just built smell about the place no matter how careful you were unless you stood on site during the build in your hardhat and hi viz monitoring what was going on you got what you got And as I say rightly or wrongly what you got mightn t have been up to much As to the present day the new regulations should make things better Architects and builders will all have to have some kind of professional indemnity insurance so that if a problem arises there s a fund that should pay out Given that every architect builder will have to pay an annual premium they ll be a lot less likely to put their names shoddy workmanship and seeing as it s an offence to occupy a building that HASN T had the work signed off on developers will be far less likely to cut corners My point in any event is that whilst it s an easy line to trot out buyer beware isn t a fair assessment if the buyer can t check the insides If you re buying a car you d be allowed have a mechanic take a peek under the bonnet before you hand over any of your hard earned Reply Jonotti October 5 2015 at 2 16 pm People buying blindly off plans enabled these cowboy antics A decent building surveyor could tell that these places were thrown together as quickly as possible Too many people were willing to throw half a million at some property without a second thought They should live with the consequences The more cautious buyer should not be made pay for their private dealings Reply ivan October 5 2015 at 2 32 pm My point is and you haven t deal with it that no matter how responsible a buyer was they had no mechanism at their disposal to investigate the quality of workmanship They relied on the word of somebody somebody who d been to college and had letters after their name n all like somebody who was related to the building of the project but also somebody who had a professional reputation and probably wrote on an RIAI approved cert and who said yup this is fine You say that A decent building surveyor could tell that these places were thrown together as quickly as possible but could they Did they I honest to God don t remember there being much doom mongering about shoddy building back pre crash though that could well have been that newspapers with bulging property supplements were never going to kill that fattened calf I ll grant you I get where you re coming from but if you re to line up the dramatis personae in this sorry episode against the wall are you seriously telling me that the purchasers are the most culpable in this A simple yes no there will suffice And if you re not then who is most culpable yes I know Jonotti October 5 2015 at 2 40 pm They needed an independent expert not connected to the build Sure they might not have been able to detect apartment level issues but that is the risk associated with buying a leasehold apartment I remember a lot of discussion only back then about shoddy apartment builds Most people had bubble mindsets though at the time The builders are to blame and they are the ones that can be sued If you can t sue them then tough Anne October 5 2015 at 5 04 pm Jonoffi People buying blindly off plans enabled these cowboy antics Fire certification is granted at design stage At least go away and do some reading before you start trolling with nonsense would you Anne October 5 2015 at 5 10 pm Sure they might not have been able to detect apartment level issues but that is the risk associated with buying a leasehold apartment Christ above but you re one airhead What would a decent building surveyor do differently when surveying a house as opposed to an apartment that would make him more likely to find defects with the build of a house as opposed to apartment level I won t hold my breath for an answer from Jonoffi jonotti October 5 2015 at 5 12 pm They will have full access to the house but unlikely to get access to whole apartment building Anne October 5 2015 at 9 18 pm Here Janoffi http www broadsheet ie tag millfield manor The Fire Safety Deficiencies Are Widespread Millfield Manor Co Kildare You ll recall how six homes were destroyed by a fire in Millfield Manor Newbridge Co Kildare on March 31 Continuity Jay Z October 5 2015 at 2 34 pm When Longboat Quay was built even if you got the finest engineer in Ireland to give your prospective apartment the once over he probably didn t have x ray eyes so as to see what had hadn t been put in the walls etc so that he could advise the potential purchaser stay away So how was it ever discovered then Your post is nonsensical Any surveyor could have examined that building same with Priory Hall and told a potential buyer that there would be problems People foolishly bought off the plans like panicked lemmings not to make a home but to make a killing Reply Anne October 5 2015 at 4 55 pm So how was it ever discovered then A prospective buyer s surveyor who drilled into walls I would think A lot of surveyors wouldn t have been as thorough It s standard when purchasing a home if getting a mortgage that the bank would send their surveyor to the property People generally also get their own structural survey done The defects were missed on numerous surveys you can be guaranteed of that People foolishly bought off the plans like panicked lemmings not to make a home but to make a killing Fire certification would have been given based on plans Anne October 5 2015 at 9 33 pm Sorry it looks like it was discovered last year Here http www irishexaminer com viewpoints columnists michael clifford longboat quay gremlins went to work on apartment block 357515 html A detailed inspection by a senior fire officer in Dublin Fire Brigade in May 2014 unearthed a dozen serious concerns for fire safety Was it consulted about the recommendation to serve a fire safety notice last year and did it have any input into the decision not to do so Having got burned in Priory Hall was the council determined that no repeat should occur whatever the safety concerns may be Nigel October 5 2015 at 5 27 pm Caveat emptor are words to live by but they haven t been the bottom line in consumer protection for a while now Reply Clo October 5 2015 at 1 03 pm Not a great analogy But if you want to ask anyone any questions about Longboat Quay you could start with this guy chief project architect at McNamara http www mciarch com aboutrmc htm Or maybe this one head of finance whose team presumably squeezed costings in this kind of context https ie linkedin com in ronnieneville Definitely ask any FF types who appear on your doorstep about it too http www independent ie opinion analysis the man whose business success was built on the wings of political failure 26416375 html Reply curmudgeon October 5 2015 at 4 16 pm Bingo Thanks for posting this Reply Junkface October 5 2015 at 1 52 pm The State is liable for not enforcing building regulations on the country which they govern Other countries have things called Laws and Procedures which must be followed if builders and developers intend to build homes to sell What happened at Longboat Quay and

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    43 pm ha you don t know Marta do you Reply meadowlark October 6 2015 at 5 08 pm I know a Martha and not a Marta sadly Close but no biscuit Reply ahyeah October 6 2015 at 6 07 pm You d be fetching Neilo out of A E if Marta sat on his lap Let s leave it at that Clampers Outside October 6 2015 at 4 23 pm The Larder Parliament St D2 Had a really gorgeous all day breakfast in there on Sunday just 10 Dunno where they get there feckin mushrooms not in LiDL Aldi Tesco Dunnes anyway licking me lips thinking of it Reply Neilo October 6 2015 at 4 25 pm Probably Evergreen in Aungier Street their fruit n veg is top quality Reply Randy Ewing October 6 2015 at 4 28 pm Wetherspoons does a full Breakfast for 5 95 and that includes a drink Reply ahyeah October 6 2015 at 6 08 pm The Larder on Parliament Street Didn t have you down for one of those homosexuals Clampers Reply Neilo October 6 2015 at 6 28 pm Dammint ahyeah can t you leave an ageing roué to his idle skeevy daydreams Reply ahyeah October 6 2015 at 6 53 pm Who s that You or Clampers Or both It could yet end beautifully Reply Clampers Outside October 7 2015 at 12 44 am ageing roué Best insult I ve had on here in a long time Had to look that one up Reply Neilo October 7 2015 at 8 11 am Bizarrely I directed that mild slam at me myself and I but who doesn t love validation Optimus Grime October 6 2015 at 4 25 pm Centra a couple of doors up could have done you a roll and a cup of coffee for about the price of the americano alone But no you had to have breakfast in the Shelbourne then photograph the receipt then parade it around the internet going look how I spend my money on fried pork products Reply Jones October 6 2015 at 4 54 pm It clearly says the Westbury you numpty Reply Optimus Grime October 6 2015 at 5 16 pm Balls Totally rendered my rant useless there Reply Conor October 6 2015 at 4 39 pm Errr breakfast in a 5 star hotel Price is on the menu so please just f k off with the false outrage Sick of these Reply Deadly October 6 2015 at 4 52 pm I m sick of people with your outlook Conor Name and shame Awareness word of mouth Encourages people not to cross the door Personally I appreciate the heads up Reply Paps October 6 2015 at 4 57 pm Often go into the Westbury Reply rotide October 6 2015 at 5 19 pm Why shame What has shame got to do with this at all Name it by all means but thats the price people with more assets than you are clearly

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    d remove any improvements she made to the property including windows kitchen units floors bathroom suites etc and lash the old crap back in un be fupn lievable scottser October 7 2015 at 3 13 pm a cwo wouldn t pay rent supplement on this on the grounds that it s overcrowded Reply Bonkers October 7 2015 at 1 47 pm Hmmm am I the only one thinking that the two professional girls have spotted a way to get other people to pay their rent 4 x 350pm makes 1400 for a single room and they ve still got another room spare if they want to lump another four people in there too and double their money to 2800 a month Also those double beds look suspiciously like the large airbeds that were just on sale in Aldi last week too which is remarkable given the ad says there s an Aldi nearby Reply donkey kong October 7 2015 at 1 57 pm indeed my thoughts exactly 1400 for one room no matter how fancy is outrageous Reply fluffybiscuits October 7 2015 at 1 49 pm Is the ad on the facebook page I coulnt see it 1 on S Hoops post Reply ZeligIsJaded October 7 2015 at 1 51 pm The house is made of bricks I m in How do I get a piece of this Reply Hank October 7 2015 at 2 28 pm Not just bricks Big bricks Reply realPolithicks October 7 2015 at 3 57 pm Expensive bricks Reply Count Aika A Moore October 7 2015 at 5 05 pm BRICKS Reply Dubloony October 7 2015 at 1 54 pm 1 400 for a shared room with 3 other people 16 800 per year Whole new level of rental hell Just one teeny weeny problem The limit on rental income from rent a room is 12 000 per year Anything over that and they are liable for income tax on the lot Reply donkey kong October 7 2015 at 1 58 pm lets rat them out Reply Rob G October 7 2015 at 2 14 pm Bad as things are I doubt anyone is actually going to spend 1 400 renting that room Reply curmudgeon October 7 2015 at 2 36 pm Yep landlords know this and if they really reckoned they could get an extra 2 people on the property the would have built a dividing wall wet voila a while new room This is purely two industrious housemates getting their rent for free Reply Cup of tea anyone October 7 2015 at 4 55 pm It will be students renting so might just get them 8 9 months of the year That brings it down to about 12K Might just squeeze it in That does cover bills also though Still look at the size of the press for 4 people Reply Jimmee October 7 2015 at 1 54 pm Professional girls Indeed Reply george October 7 2015 at 1 58 pm So how

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    the Wikipedia page for the letter B Reply Chompsky October 7 2015 at 11 53 am Thanks Mr T Fixed now Thank you very much Reply Clampers Outside October 7 2015 at 12 01 pm The first link was at least a bit more interesting The letter B is beautiful and as Swiss Toni would say to pen the letter B is like making love to a beautiful woman Reply Gdo October 7 2015 at 11 54 am He has an annoying face Reply Clampers Outside October 7 2015 at 12 01 pm Buck shot might improve it Reply Neilo October 7 2015 at 12 26 pm The sign right Not the face Reply Conor October 7 2015 at 12 15 pm All that s wrong with Irish politics summed up in one simple illegal sign Reply bisted October 7 2015 at 12 41 pm will it join with the Jackie Healy Highway Reply Frilly Keane October 7 2015 at 12 50 pm Tis a stroke alright But a brilliant one Bet there s a few D2D4ers disgusted they didn t think of it Reply dave g k October 7 2015 at 1 00 pm He hasn t said who has secured it in fairness only that it has been secured Reply realifenotfantasy October 7 2015 at 1 05 pm I m sure the necessary authority for the sign has been secured and it is not an offence under S 71 of the Roads Act 1993 Reply Declan October 7 2015 at 1 12 pm So it s wrong for him to do this and try to gain rightfully or wrongly credit for improving people s lives but it s ok for Paul Murphy Mary Lou Joan Burton et al to have their faces plaster on sheets through my front door telling me about how great they ve been City problems Reply Mr T October 7 2015 at 2 01 pm He didn t personally secure funding The funding has come from a national transport strategy Also the sign is probably not legal Posting fliers in your door is entirely legal Reply scottser October 7 2015 at 3 42 pm FF were masters at this craic a street light would go out they d send out letters to all the houses round the area saying we re gonna get that light fixed it gets fixed then there s another letter sent out saying we fixed the light vote for us Reply manolo October 7 2015 at 1 23 pm Since he is claiming to have secured the funding for the road work I am now curious about how he claims to have done it Was it through a power call or a power letter Did he have to do any favours in exchange Reply ollie October 7 2015 at 1 30 pm Are all Kerry politicians gobshites Reply Bingo October 7 2015 at 5 13 pm Yep they are Reply Liam Deliverance October 7 2015 at 3 01 pm You

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    days Reply Nojotti October 7 2015 at 3 36 pm Well why don t you p1ss off like you threatened to a few posts back Do you have Stockholm syndrome or something Reply fluffybiscuits October 7 2015 at 3 50 pm Jonotti was the door stuck when you went to leave Are the other blueshirts not playing with you Reply Disasta October 7 2015 at 3 54 pm 1 Someone bolt the door when he s gone Reply Joe cool October 7 2015 at 4 57 pm Where did jonsnotti threaten to leave I missed that Dόn Pídgéόní October 7 2015 at 4 51 pm He loves us too much to leave Reply Mikeyfex October 7 2015 at 4 58 pm Why should anyone leave Reply rotide October 7 2015 at 5 08 pm it s not just DOBwatch there s a whole multitude of subjects from which to farm those all important page impressions Reply Walter Ego October 7 2015 at 7 24 pm Well someone has to DOBwatch Moriarty anyone Reply Randy Ewing October 7 2015 at 3 31 pm needs a green room or thinks he is entitled to one Reply fluffybiscuits October 7 2015 at 3 58 pm The sun always shines in Haiti Reply Charlie October 7 2015 at 6 22 pm Fluffygirl Sorry but you gotta be one of the most irritating and unfunniest individuals on the internet Don t you have a job or life to go to Reply serf October 7 2015 at 3 59 pm Interesting that Digicel cited recent volatility in equity markets as the reason fro postponing the IPO following their investor roadshow The main metric of such volatility is the Vix Index which just yesterday fell to its lowest level since August http www ft com intl cms s 0 3cbe2e14 6bac 11e5 8171 ba1968cf791a html axzz3nryjIrpu Reply Andy October 7 2015 at 4 48 pm S P Vix down from a high of 41 in August but UP 40 on June DGL announcement date CBOE Emerging Market VIX up 60 since DGL announcement date http www cboe com micro vixetf vxeem Cable Wireless share price down 13 since DGL announcement date S P High Yield Index down 4 45 YTD Reply TerryD October 7 2015 at 6 31 pm http www premierleague com en gb news news 2015 16 oct 071015 premier league awards caribbean rights to cable and wireless communications html Reply rotide October 7 2015 at 5 07 pm in fairness to him he answered pretty much exactly why they cancelled the IPO in very reasonable terms semms like a sound business decision He s quite good at making those you know Reply ahjayzis October 7 2015 at 5 22 pm Oh we know we ve all taken various hits for his business nous remember Reply New Person A October 7 2015 at 5 24 pm Needs more Irish water Reply rotide October 7 2015 at 5 29 pm This might come as a shock

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